Blessing Super Artist Trumpet Serial Numbers
Posted By admin On 05.11.19 Goto page 1,-::AuthorMessagebuzzerVeteran MemberJoined: 11 Nov 2001Posts: 112Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:28 am Post subject:Local store has on consignment a Blessing Artist model in pretty good physical condition, serial in the 500K range. Silver finish. Comments on this horn? Asking price in the low 300 range.mheffernen5Heavyweight MemberJoined: 22 Mar 2004Posts: 637Location: Iowa (2nd largest city of IA is CR)Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 3:51 pm Post subject:All I heard is Blessing's are pieces of junk. Checkmark125Veteran MemberJoined: 29 Oct 2003Posts: 241Location: Northwest GeorgiaPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 3:51 pm Post subject:I bought a silver plated Blessing Artist last summer with the serial number starting with 428.It looks and plays good.
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It had a chemical bath before I got it.I paid 160 dollars with the shipping included.I took it to a local music store and bought a new waterkey cork for 50 cents and asked them what it was worth.They told me that they would ask 250 dollars for it if they were selling it. Of course, if I wanted to sell it to them they would give me my money back that I paid for it.300 is a little overpriced unless it is in new condition since retail is about 250 dollars for the one I have.Mine has no plating wear and only some very minor dings.Offer 200 dollars and see what they say. If you really like the horn then 250 dollars would not be a bad deal.MarkjhatproHeavyweight MemberJoined: 17 Mar 2002Posts: 9162Location: Chicago areaPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:20 pm Post subject:I think it's unfair to brand Blessings as 'junk,' particularly if it's an opinion based only on something you heard and not on your own experience. I had one of the top of the line Blessings and it was well made and played well, too. It wasn't a Strad or a Xeno, but it wasn't priced like one, either.At one point, the late Red Rodney thought enough of Blessing flugels to endorse them. So did Brad Goode.As for the Blessing Artist, it was good enough for Clifford.musicalmasonVeteran MemberJoined: 24 Feb 2004Posts: 214Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:22 pm Post subject:clifford played a super artist, I dont know how different they are, but Im sure theyre different.buzzerVeteran MemberJoined: 11 Nov 2001Posts: 112Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:43 pm Post subject:They were asking 350 for it, there are some minor plating issues, not much, and no dings.
Blessing Trumpet And Old Elkhart Trumpet sold together with case pre-owned. Hi up for sale is both a blessing trumpet and an old Elkhart trumpet. The blessing trumpet is serial number 532219 the Elkhart 543841. They are probably both student trumpets I would imagine.Both trumpets will fit in the case that they are being sold in. Blessing Serial Number List. Horn-u-Copia An Index to Blessing Instruments. 1906 1: 1935 28000: 1946 Sept. Serial Number List Catalog Tradenames Links. From the serial number, we can surmise this instrument was manufactured in the early 1940’s. When this model of Blessing trumpet was introduced, it soon became the preferred trumpet of choice of legendary jazz trumpet artist, Clifford Brown, who was killed in a tragic car accident at the young age of 25 (more information about Clifford Brown).
Looks like a large bore according to the Blessing web site for that model (460 I think it was). Appreciate all the info. Will see how low they will go.Interesting also is this store has been selling Chinese trumpets brand Palatino, which look good but turns out have had some valve problems.
Going to drop them. No problems with other instruments of same brand. FYI.Tom LeCompteHeavyweight MemberJoined: 29 Mar 2004Posts: 3224Location: Geneva, SwitzerlandPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 5:57 pm Post subject:Mheffernen5, I agree with Jim - if you haven't played a horn, it's unfair to declare it junk. And the site you posted seems not to have any reviews of that particular horn.Buzzer, have you played it?
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How does it sound/feel to you? Since it's local and you're serious, maybe you can arrange to try it out for a day or two. Sometimes one's opinion of a horn changes (in either direction) when using it with an ensemble.
As for price, I'd guess low 300's is probably not wacky.Cheers,TombuzzerVeteran MemberJoined: 11 Nov 2001Posts: 112Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 6:10 pm Post subject:No have not played it. May try to do so next week. Actually thinking of a friend who is in need of a horn, that it might be Ok for him. But I will give it a try. This particular horn is kinda heavy also, and I think Blessing made a lightweight model but this is not it.
Feels at least as heavy as my Mendez.Will post after trying it out.AlVintagedHSRichRegular MemberJoined: 06 Mar 2004Posts: 92Location: ChicagoPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 8:08 pm Post subject:musicalmason said:clifford played a super artist, I dont know how different they are, but Im sure theyre different.-The horn Clifford played was very different from the current Blessings. The Super Artist he played and the current Artist are very different. One way one can tell the difference is the third slide ring: the 'old school' (clifford's), from the 50s-60s-70s or so, had the ring on the underside of the slide, while the current top line Artists are almost exact copys of strads.I myself have an old Artist cornet. Sn 45111, and it has the undersided third ring. The Super Artist, at least the cornet, was different only in that it had an adjustable stop on the slide (like those of strads, etc.).Also, the old style Artists that I've seen have had a sort of fine tuning device on the main tuning slide opposite of the leadpipe. It looks like a fat chunk of metal where the tuning slide goes toward the valve casing.Apparently, the old Blessings are fantastic playing horns, even though I, personally, haven't heard of anyone playing them.
I figure it's like Olds and even Bach: the older horns (recording, mendez, Mt. Vernon, etc) played, or at least were favored, to the current runs of their mills.Just my input,RichRich MainMechanical Engineering at the University of MichiganMichigan Marching Band TrumpetYamaha 6445HSIIYamaha 6445S-Warburton 4SV / 5 (Series 80)Kanstul Signature 1525-GR 67FLbuzzerVeteran MemberJoined: 11 Nov 2001Posts: 112Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:13 pm Post subject:Is there a site that would have serial numbers for Blessing trumpets? This one is 500 K area but that may or may not mean much by itself.
I do not know when it was purchased new, but may be able to find out.AlMUSICandCHARACTERVeteran MemberJoined: 28 Jan 2004Posts: 267Location: Indiana, USAPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:34 pm Post subject:Blessing has been around for over 100 years in Elkhart! They make primarily beginner horns, and the artist level horns are advanced beginner to low professional horns. The Blessing XL is not a bad horn at all. The Blessing flugel is inexpensive and a great playing horn for the money (I have played them both).Blessing on the trombone side is well-respected when then get up to the top-level. The B88 is considered 95% of the refinement of the Conn 88H at well less than half the cost.
I played a B88 for quite some time.Beginner horns are unusual animals. Artist horns can be advanced beginner horns or good value professional horns. The price usually tips it. The TrumpetReview has no reviews for the Blessing Bb line ( ).Blessing makes the Artist horns for ZeuS and makes all the horns for Olds. If you are looking for a good value in a Artist level horn, the Blessing XL is not a bad choice at all.JimiBowTie Music - home of the mostAuthorized Stage 1, Van Cleave, Weril and Stomvi dealerMany Trumpet Accessories Too!mheffernen5Heavyweight MemberJoined: 22 Mar 2004Posts: 637Location: Iowa (2nd largest city of IA is CR)Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:38 pm Post subject:Quote:On 2004-06-26 18:51, mheffernen5 wrote:All I heard is Blessing's are pieces of junk.
CheckOK, at this point I am so sorry for what I said. I have read bad things about valve alignment and stuff like that.mark125Veteran MemberJoined: 29 Oct 2003Posts: 241Location: Northwest GeorgiaPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 5:29 pm Post subject:Quote:On 2004-06-27 15:13, buzzer wrote:Is there a site that would have serial numbers for Blessing trumpets? This one is 500 K area but that may or may not mean much by itself.
I do not know when it was purchased new, but may be able to find out.AlFrom the list at this website it was probably made around 1986 or 1987.They made around 50,000 horns per year after 1983 according to this website.Mark This Message was edited by: mark125 on 2004-06-27 20:31 knfjazzcatRegular MemberJoined: 10 May 2004Posts: 19Location: SoCalPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:13 pm Post subject:Brownie make a great decision in choosing the old Blessing for his horn. The old Blessing Super Artist and Artist horns were spectacular. I recently had an opportunity to play one, and I absolutely loved it.
If only I had the money.Callet JazzMonette LT BLMonette STC-1 B4SCourtois 154R flugelhornBrownie Lives!DaveHHeavyweight MemberJoined: 20 Nov 2001Posts: 3859Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:26 am Post subject:I have owned two Blessing ML-1 Artist trumpets and a B-154 Artist model flugelhorn. These were the horns that Blessing makes in its current production process - not the vintage horns mentioned elsewhere in this thread. I do not know anything about those.In all cases, I felt the horns were good horns for the money, especially the flugelhorn.
I don't think I'd buy another Blessing just now because I am more satisfied with the horns I have at present.I think you will recognize that the price of the Blessing and the price of something like a Bach Strad, for example, is quite different. So, I do not feel that comparisons like that would be fair or realistic, or that one should expect a Bach Strad sound or performance from a horn that costs much less to begin with.
I have played and owned both, and my opinion is that there is a pretty big difference between the Strad and the Blessing ML-1(to use the Strad as an example of a well-known horn).But, if you approach it with the idea of getting fair value for the money, then your expectations are realistic.TrptbengeHeavyweight MemberJoined: 15 Feb 2002Posts: 2367Location: Atlanta, GAPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:52 am Post subject:The Blessing horns of today sure are not the vintage Blessings were. However, their top line horns are pretty good playing horns.
I like to think of the rest of their line as okay - not bad but not great.The vintage Blessings were something special. I used to own a 1960 Artist and have played a Super Artist. They both were outstanding horns. They have a.470 bore. The valves had a short stroke and were quick.Unfortunately, like Martin and Olds they were bought by CMI and eventually ruined. CMI pretty much ran all their brands into the ground or, in the case of Olds, out of business.It's the sound that makes the difference!vivaceHeavyweight MemberJoined: 06 Nov 2001Posts: 3203Location: BYU! Provo, UTPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:02 pm Post subject:My blessing is a piece of junk.
I have been playing it for about 5 or 6 years now.I had avalve spring break on me. No one I have talked to, young or old has ever heard of a valve spring that is not rusted or anything breaking in two. Mine did my junior year of H.S.My 2nd valve doesn't line up correctly. It doesn't go down enough, so you can see a little bit of the valve on the bottom of the slide (when removed.) If you take off the finger button and push down a little more so the bottom holes line up, then the top holes are out of line.The 2nd valve slide is too small for the reciever, and will pop out if greased.' All music is folk music.
I ain't never heard no horse sing no song.' - Louis ArmstrongbuzzerVeteran MemberJoined: 11 Nov 2001Posts: 112Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:45 pm Post subject:Thanks for all the input. I will try to find out when the owners purchased the horn and did they get it new, etc. Think the store mgr said they paid 650-700 for it so perhaps that is what they paid in the late '80's new. Does not have orig.
Case, just a pro-tech style case. Will look around tomorrow when I check it out for any other paperwork. Just says Artist on the bell, no other info on the horn. My guess, and only a guess at this point, is that it was new in late '80's from indications of tarnish, etc. If so, might be a pretty good grab at 275-300 area.AlDaveHHeavyweight MemberJoined: 20 Nov 2001Posts: 3859Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:35 pm Post subject:The Blessings that I am familiar with do not have any inscriptions of any kind on the bell.Rather, they have an inscription on the mouthpiece receiver. I think it says Blessing ML-1 - if that is the model we are talking about here.
That is the model that Blessing has been advertising as their professional horn for the last 15 years or so.I'd rethink/re-evaluate the purchase if the horn is one of the lower level models such as a student or intermediate model.buzzerVeteran MemberJoined: 11 Nov 2001Posts: 112Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:46 pm Post subject:Will check the leadpipe for any markings. On the bell it says Blessing and Artist below it. Nothing else - plain bell except for those two words, unless I missed something.
Physically heavyweight in my opinion. Will look for ML-1, etc. Tomorrow.ThanksAlDisplay posts from previous:-All times are GMT - 8 HoursGoto page 1,Page 1 of 2Jump to:You cannot post new topics in this forumYou cannot reply to topics in this forumYou cannot edit your posts in this forumYou cannot delete your posts in this forumYou cannot vote in polls in this forum.
Blessing Trumpet And Old Elkhart Trumpet sold together with case pre-owned. Hi up for sale is both a blessing trumpet and an old Elkhart trumpet. The blessing trumpet is serial number 532219 the Elkhart 543841.
They are probably both student trumpets I would imagine.Both trumpets will fit in the case that they are being sold in. Both of them show some paint loss and one of them has a slight ding that will not affect play and isn't very noticeable. The keys on both trumpet move freely and well.
I believe they are in playable condition but both need a new mouthpiece as one is not provided. The case is in used condition it does not stay open when held up I don't know if this is supposed to be like this or not thanks for your interest in my sales. The BTR-1460 is a fantastic trumpet for any level of player from the motivated advanced student to the professional musician. Free blowing and reliable, it is designed to inspire confidence and musical development.
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